Okay I’m aware the connection between Tony Veitch and Donald Trump may be a bit tenuous. I mean they are both narcissistic parasites who have little to no respect for women but I think the comparison runs a lot deeper than that.
For background to my non New Zealander readers, Tony Veitch is a local sports commentator/celebrity. In 2006, Veitch had a domestic incident with his (now ex) girlfriend, Kirsten Dunne-Powell that resulted in Dunne-Powell having a broken back and being confined to wheelchair for over 6 months. After serving 300 hours of Community Service, paying a $10,000 fine, and 9 months of supervision, Veitch has been able to build himself back to a celebrity status icon with a Facebook page that attracts nearly 200,000 likes and a popular radio show on NewstalkZB.
The Disclaimer I want to put forward is that this post is not about whether Veitch should still have a job and/or he has served his time and that we should forget about the incident. There are countless blogs, stories, posts, and editorials about this matter and I don’t want to saturate the field. Instead this post is to draw comparisons between the Donald Trump phenomena and the inability for people who want Tony Veitch to be held to a greater level of accountability for his actions to be successful.
Is it Tony Trump or Donald Veitch?
If you haven’t yet, have a read of my previous post titled Stumping Trump 101, it’s not just because I’m vain and want views (even if I am and I do) it’s because it highlights a similar phenomena I have found with the outcry at Tony Veitch in recent days.
In a short recap, the post discusses the nature of anti-Trump protesters performing little action that will actually inhibit Donald Trump to be successful. Instead of appealing to the people who support Trump and addressing those issues, anti-Trumpers tend to run around using the word fascist hoping that a Trump supporter will magically change their mind because “omg hitler!!!”
Whilst the Tony Veitch phenomena does occur on a relatively smaller scale (ie: Tony Veitch isn’t running for the President of the world’s most influential state… yet) I can’t help but notice the disconnect between people like Tony Veitch and those who would like to see him fired. This is because those two sides are approaching the issue from entirely different lenses. The people who like Tony Veitch are people who listen to him for the sake of sports coverage and like a few “cheeky bantz” when catching up on the cricket. The other side however, seek a higher level of justice for Kirsten Dunne-Powell and view the success of Tony Veitch to be representative of a society that doesn’t care about domestic violence. There isn’t much correlation of values here.
Unfortunately, these two sides seem to exist on a far more demographic based level than simply ones desire to enjoy sport. The people who oppose Tony Veitch are unfortunately confined to being presented as city liberals, a demographic of New Zealand society that are typically hated by the mainstream for enforcing harsh and oppressive ideas like women’s rights on the rest of New Zealand.On the flip-side, sports culture on social media tends to associate itself with LAD culture. LAD culture is the very phenomena that brought us hilarious comedians like Dapper Laughs whose entire material focuses on misogynistic jokes and a resentment of political correctness. When one questions the typical LAD as to whether their joke was perhaps in bad taste the typical response is probably: “It’s alright we were just havin’ a laff m8”.
Remember this tool?
Lets slow down.
Now look, I understand that referring to all people who like Tony Veitch as LADs is a bit of a jump. The importance of the comparison is that I’m trying to highlight that there is a clear level of disassociation between moral issues and entertainment for a lot of these people. I believe that this disassociation is what people disagree on when it comes to the question of Tony Veitch. One one hand, Tony Veitch did a very shit thing, on the other hand people want to get their sports journalism. For a lot of those people the two don’t and shouldn’t correlate.
This is what separates those who like Tony Veitch and those who oppose him.
Wasn’t this post supposed to be about Trump as well?
It’s okay I’m getting to that now.
What makes this scenario so similar is that people who oppose Tony Veitch often do so in a way similar to someone who opposes Donald Trump and seeks to inhibit his success. By appealing to issues that you consider vitally important and expecting other people to understand and follow suit you can really only expect to preach to the converted. Whilst what you’ve said may help people who feel disenfranchised you aren’t addressing the core issue.
As mentioned in an earlier blog post, if I was to change the mind of a Trump supporter I would do so by appealing to the reasons that make someone support Trump in the first place and then provide a better alternative. The situation with Veitch isn’t any different, I cannot expect to convince somebody to my school of thought if I cannot give them a suitable reason based on their priorities. The outcry against Tony Veitch and his actions is so frequently ineffective because it isn’t attempting to convince the people who like him in the first place.
That’s nice and all, but how?
This is obviously a very difficult question to asnwer. This post is more or less designed to diagnose why the outcry against Tony Veitch is consistently inefficient and how, despite his actions, Veitch has managed to retain so much of his popularity.
I think to understand how to reduce the popularity of Tony Veitch we have to look at what functionally makes him a popular sports presenter.
It’s because he’s entertaining.
The solution here could be to approach what it is about Tony Veitch that makes him so entertaining and therefore appeal to that and create something better. It’s the exact way you could convince a Trump supporter to support somebody else.
This shouldn’t be a problem in the first place.
If you’re thinking that, you’re absolutely right. Unfortunately the status quo is literally the worst and it will do everything it can to destroy what you love. It also kicks puppies.
If you want to change the status quo, appeal to those who oppose you and give them reasons to subscribe to your train of thought. It’s not about sacrificing your ideas it’s about manipulating your ideas to a range of situation so that people can see what you want them to see but from their relative perspective.